As a Jewish youngster growing up in Budapest, an infant survivor of the Nazi genocide, I was for years haunted by a question resounding in my brain with such force that sometimes my head would spin: “How was it possible? How could the world have let such horrors happen?”
It was a naïve question, that of a child. I know better now: such is reality. Whether in Vietnam or Rwanda or Syria, humanity stands by either complicitly or unconsciously or helplessly, as it always does. In Gaza today we find ways of justifying the bombing of hospitals, the annihilation of families at dinner, the killing of pre-adolescents playing soccer on a beach.
In Israel-Palestine the powerful party has succeeded in painting itself as the victim, while the ones being killed and maimed become the perpetrators. “They don’t care about life,” Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says, abetted by the Obamas and Harpers of this world, “we do.” Netanyahu, you who with surgical precision slaughter innocents, the young and the old, you who have cruelly blockaded Gaza for years, starving it of necessities, you who deprive Palestinians of more and more of their land, their water, their crops, their trees — you care about life?
There is no understanding Gaza out of context — Hamas rockets or unjustifiable terrorist attacks on civilians — and that context is the longest ongoing ethnic cleansing operation in the recent and present centuries, the ongoing attempt to destroy Palestinian nationhood.
The Palestinians use tunnels? So did my heroes, the poorly armed fighters of the Warsaw Ghetto. Unlike Israel, Palestinians lack Apache helicopters, guided drones, jet fighters with bombs, laser-guided artillery. Out of impotent defiance, they fire inept rockets, causing terror for innocent Israelis but rarely physical harm. With such a gross imbalance of power, there is no equivalence of culpability.
Israel wants peace? Perhaps, but as the veteran Israeli journalist Gideon Levy has pointed out, it does not want a just peace. Occupation and creeping annexation, an inhumane blockade, the destruction of olive groves, the arbitrary imprisonment of thousands, torture, daily humiliation of civilians, house demolitions: these are not policies compatible with any desire for a just peace. In Tel Aviv Gideon Levy now moves around with a bodyguard, the price of speaking the truth.
I have visited Gaza and the West Bank. I saw multi-generational Palestinian families weeping in hospitals around the bedsides of their wounded, at the graves of their dead. These are not people who do not care about life. They are like us — Canadians, Jews, like anyone: they celebrate life, family, work, education, food, peace, joy. And they are capable of hatred, they can harbour vengeance in the hearts, just like we can.
One could debate details, historical and current, back and forth. Since my days as a young Zionist and, later, as a member of Jews for a Just Peace, I have often done so. I used to believe that if people knew the facts, they would open to the truth. That, too, was naïve. This issue is far too charged with emotion. As the spiritual teacher Eckhart Tolle has pointed out, the accumulated mutual pain in the Middle East is so acute, “a significant part of the population finds itself forced to act it out in an endless cycle of perpetration and retribution.”
“People’s leaders have been misleaders, so they that are led have been confused,” in the words of the prophet Jeremiah. The voices of justice and sanity are not heeded. Netanyahu has his reasons. Harper and Obama have theirs.
And what shall we do, we ordinary people? I pray we can listen to our hearts. My heart tells me that “never again” is not a tribal slogan, that the murder of my grandparents in Auschwitz does not justify the ongoing dispossession of Palestinians, that justice, truth, peace are not tribal prerogatives. That Israel’s “right to defend itself,” unarguable in principle, does not validate mass killing.
A few days ago I met with one of my dearest friends, a comrade from Zionist days and now professor emeritus at an Israeli university. We spoke of everything but the daily savagery depicted on our TV screens. We both feared the rancour that would arise.
But, I want to say to my friend, can we not be sad together at what that beautiful old dream of Jewish redemption has come to? Can we not grieve the death of innocents? I am sad these days. Can we not at least mourn together?
This piece originally appeared as an Opinion in the Toronto Star (July 22).
145 thoughts on “Beautiful Dream of Israel has Become a Nightmare”
Thank you, Dr. Gabor for your compassionate post on the devastation that is Israel v Palestine. I am with you, and I cannot discuss this with those who think Palestine is evil there is such a charge to the situation. Even friends who lost family to Nazi concentration camps are out for blood. This seems to be the way of the world from time immemorial. We can only pray for peace and feel the grief in our hearts collectively.
I think Dr. Mate is watching a different reality. If you cared about the truth, you and Dr. Mate should watch what Bassem Eid says. He is the founder and former director of the Jerusalem-based Palestinian Human Rights Monitoring Group (PHRMG):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9YQwtDibGc
Laura, yes!!! I love this guy. He speaks the truth. Thank you for sharing!
Um. Not at all related. I don’t see the words “boycott” or “economic sanctions” in the Mate post in question. He’s simply saying if Goliath with his might is attacking David, who only has a slingshot, stop praising and aiding Goliath, while saying David has no right to self-defense. It’s as simple as that. The oppressed have become the oppressor. The victims of a holocaust are themselves enacting a genocide, and the powers that be stand around and clap.
Thank you for sharing the link. Unfortunately it was recorded 8 years ago so I am not sure how relevant it is today.
Im curious If you still hold the same beliefs that you did then? Surely the reality of the situation has sunken in by now……
You must be smoking Hashish and so is Mr Eid: Israel has destroyed all of Gaza including hospitals and Mosques and is indiscriminately bombing Lebanon. It has been sentenced by the world’s leading human rights organizations for committing Genocide but no one cares. The Arabs have suffered because they were weaker than the west and zionist settlers and the Palestinians have suffered because no one will give them back their land, homes or lives. What a calamity , US backed and no one gives a fig. Separate roads, health care, walls to keep them in like animals: i wish you had family and friends in lebanon or had to grow up in Gaza: Read Gideon Levy or just watch the news! As for Apartheid state: Gaza and The WestvBank are not technically part of Israel so within israel proper the arabs live as tolerated second class citizens who get education and health care but are treated like enemies in their own country. Read Ta Nahisi Coates . Honestly we need to help the Palestinians build their own nation and then let them and the Jews figure out a way to live together. We have other worries in the states.
If you can’t keep land taken in war,,,, does tht mean that all our land taken by ROME must be returned to the Israelite peope ?? That would inducle the land on the other side of the Jordan river that the Bridish gave to a tribe from the southern arabian lpeninsula, as well as the Sinia because at the time of the Roman conquest it WAS OUR land !
Interesting point. I think we should ask the Romans to return it then. I’m sure they will be amenable to your request. Oh wait. It looks like they don’t exist anymore to be held accountable. Darn it.
lol. I’m sorry, it’s nothing to be flippant about, it’s just what went through me first. That, and I thought they were going to refer to the Indigenous tribes of the Americas.
The beginning of peace must include cessation of rockets from Gaza which “don’t harm Israeli civilians” . Do you agree?
the romans asked for tributes- they didn’t slaughter and steal land: it was an empire and many were happy to be part of it. Don’t compare Israel or Judea to the Roman Empire: that was 2000 years ago: i would hope that we’ve evolved since then. And Palestine wasn’t win through war it was win through ethnic cleansing and economic pressure and by terrirost groups that blew up Druze villages and British outposts. The British actually conquered Palestine then like cowards gave it away . The point is that it shouldn’t be hard for two groups to live side by side. The Swiss do it. Israel and the PLO almost made it. Problem is Netanyahu is a nazi and the Palestinians have been hobbled by Iran-Hizbollah. Time for everyone to make fair compromises or this will never end
According to Jewish holy text, the ancient Israeli’s committed genocide and stole the land from others. So, maybe we need to find those most genetically related to those original people and give them Israel.
Even if we were to still claim it as Semitic land, the Palestines are Semites and likely many of them the direct descendants of the original Jews that never left. So, in either case, it’s hard to see any moral or factual claims for present Israel statehood.
I never understand how when people suffer, it does not leave them MORE compassionate . It merely seems to make for long term victims and then they become the perpetrators of pain. Sadly what is being put out as ‘protecting the Israelis from Hamas had become genocide. It is as if every Palestinian is seen as a member of Hamas.
The Israelis endlessly speak of the Palestinians as wanting to be rid of the Jews throughout Israel, But in the books and articles etc I have read it is clear the Jews have been equally keen for a very long time to exterminate the Palestinians. They have even taken down the sign posts of Palestinian villages along the road from Ramallah. In their FEAR and concern with SELF as eternal victim, which has enlarged itself over the years, the Israelis seem to have totally lost sight of their humanity.
I speak as an aged Aryan woman in the UK who enjoys the friendship of inspiring, intelligent and loveable jews in my life.
“I never understand how when people suffer, it does not leave them MORE compassionate ” I would recommend reading pretty much anything in Dr. Mate’s large body of work. This question is essentially the heart of it!
His article wasn’t really necessary. People like you who hold sociopathically antisemitic views, and have an alternate take on reality, will see things however you want to see them, without the “expert” opinions of “Dr.” Gabor.
At the same time, normal, decent, moral people understand that he’s a gaslighting hater—a capo.
Thank you for these deeply-felt and thought-out insights–a prayer for the people–made a profound impact on my beloved, also the grandchild of those who perished as yours did–
I invite you and Dr. Mate to watch who is the people that Israel has to deal with:
Hamas: “Kill Christians and Jews to the last one”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrI8-qb9M9A
I’d also invite you to compare the number of Palestinians/Arabs in Israel and the Occupied Territories with the number of jews living in muslim-governed countries in the middle east.
Politics has made the world corrupt America is a rogue state I watch the speakers at the White House disgusting people tripping over their words trying to justify the carnage that is happening
Each side has thoughts on the purity of their ideology. Hamas is the current focus of the some Palestinians against the suppression by Israel, as was Hezbollah, as was the PLO. The reaction by Israel represents the thoughts of some Israeli. But is Hamas any different to the Jewish groups Hagannah and Lehi who carried out the Deir Yassin massacre; or the wider groups that murdered unarmed British soldiers? These groups are the origin of the Likud party in manner similar to the political transformation of the IRA, KLA, ANC and others. The situation in Palestine will not change until there is global recognition of the rights to live equally and peacefully of all sides.
Laura, wake up and smell the coffee – – people like “Dr.” Mate are well aware of what Israel deals with. He’s either compen$ated for supporting the terrorists, or he’s a true believing hater, who needs no incentive to spread anti-Semitic lies (yes, even Jews can be anti-Semitic. Especially Jews, when they’re emotionally warped as he is).
It is worth mentioning (re: I Tick’s coemmnt re: sympathy with the Palestinians) that when Israel gave the Sinai back to Egypt (in return for…) Israel offered to also give Egypt back the Gaza Strip, and Egypt refused it. Seems they were having some problems with terrorists coming from the Strip, and didn’t want to be saddled with it. Sympathy? We may close the crossing to Gaza on one side, but who has completely cut Gaza off on the other? Why isn’t Egypt sending truckloads of food, clothing, building materials &tc. into Gaza at least at the rate that Israel does? Why doesn’t Egypt allow the Gaza-residing Palestinians to enter Egypt for humanitarian reasons as Israel does, for instance for medical care or to attend university? Whatever the ‘common man’ in Egypt has a problem with regarding Israel, to say it is about how Israelis treat the Palestinians is foolish and ignorant.
I think that there is a powerful message of compassion embedded with an apology. Dr. Maté was transparent about his permanently altered view of self as a Jewish boy in Hungary made to feel ashamed for what he could not control. This after surviving a magnitude of pain and trauma most of us cannot appreciate. Although the message is polarized it serves a purpose. The effective apology does not reflect our experience of the offense, it must be delivered with the narrative of the other.
I grew up in Israel, my sister is still there, my friends. A life I will never return to, but I could if I wanted to unlike exiled Palestinians. My family were Zionists and some arrived as early as 1930. Never was hate speech against the Palestinians allowed. That’s not how I was raised, but it’s not the same for everyone. We were violently at odds before statehood.
Exactly!
Thank you. Given my own, personal experiences of trauma in life, I see trauma acting out on mass today in the Middle East. Years of trauma imposition, and a people really, who are choosing, far to violently, to be ‘Idol No More’. Both sides are saying loudly, too loudly to one another, no more. We all pray for peace. And, we pray for a just peace. Justice? Such a dirty word in today’s dispensations. ‘Right’ and ‘Wrong’, misplaced statements of what I see as an unjust morality, prevail still, all over the world, it seems. I’m with you, Gabor. I no longer hold the luxury of sides in anything. My background historically is as a Metis citizen in Canada. It took so much searching, to finally make my ancestral connection to my forgotten people, tribal people, the Cree. My English ancestor, Peter Fidler, came to Canada as a surveyor and map-maker with the Hudson’s Bay company. Recent revelations of the residential school and other historical planning for genocide? Let me just say, I feel it with you. Only from a much less discussed perspective, (historically still)nthen the planned genocide of Auschwitz. We both agree as well, I suspect, that our current reservation system in Canada and the issue of imprisonment (in my view) of the people of Palestine, has a hint of Apartheid to it? Thanks, so much for this personal perspective. We pray, for peace. Be Well.
Many Arabs told me in person that Israel is the best place for Muslims and Christians in the Middle East.
Please, watch the speech of this Egyptian student VALEDICTORIAN at the Tel Aviv University in Israel
VIDEO https://www.israel21c.org/tel-aviv-universitys-valedictorian-is-egyptian/
THANK YOU FOR POSTING!
Thank you for your clarity and insights! something that is sorely missing in the news about this horror.
Instead to take Dr. Mate’s words as only true, watch this Jordanian with Arab Palestine heritage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXiWzpmUZUY
Thank you, Laura, for helping people see the other side of the story. The issues are complex and it is ludicrous and naive to blame Israel for the conflicts and violence and justify the violence from Arabs whose stated goal is to abolish Israel.
Sadly, the continued building of settlements in the West Bank destroys your stance. Israel claimed that invasion and occupation of the WB was a military necessity, OK, if we accept that premise, Israel had a God-given opportunity to show the World how a decent, civilised country could treat the citizens of occupied land.
If she had taken a leaf from the same book as the Allies who occupied Germany and Japan from 1945, helping Palestinians to develop their country alongside the development of Israel then, today, the quality of life for Palestinians would be so high that Israel/Palestine would be close in the same way as Germany and Japan are with their conquerors.
Sadly, one only has to look at the sort of people who have settled in the WB, even the most rabid anti-Semite could not create a more ugly image than the brutish reality.
Imagine a situation where, in an area of North London with a substantial Jewish population, the British Government offered extremist far-right Christian Fundamentalists from all over the World the opportunity to settle and to have Jewish homes demolished to make space for them. Such a British Government could say,
“Britain is a Christian land and only Christians are entitled to the highest grade of citizenship”
“The vast majority of British Jewish families have only been here for one or two centuries, Christians have been here nearly ten times as long”
Imagine a decent, hard-working, law abiding family of British Jews, people whose forebears fought for the UK in two World wars, waking up to find bulldozers and armed soldiers standing at their gates.
A ridiculous situation? Bitterly unjust? “the beginning of another Holocaust?
Or just a mirror to the West Bank?
Hey! I dont need to reject his experience and embrace political speech. It is YOU who should listen to him.
This message was well written.
How is it that we as human beings think it is alright to take someone else’s life? Is it that we want to set ourselves up as a god or is it pride or not letting go of bitterness/anger?
Yes, it is important to grieve this loss and we can pray for those immediately affected.
Before taking Dr. Mate’s opinion as real, you should watch Hamas’ Human-Shield Confession:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0wJXf2nt4Y
the answer is easy. You can’t keep terrotiry acquired through war. It doesn’t matter if it was a defensive war. Egypt wants to renew hostilities, fine. Doesn’t change anything about the legal status of the Sinai.And if the question is somehow directed at the Egyptians, as a warning to them that Israel was so charitable in returning the Sinai, and that it has lived up to its part of the bargain, so to speak, and that Israel is thumping its chest over how easily it might retake the Sinai in a war, then this is actually a more petty, foolish brush with war than the Egyptian calls to “revisit” the treaty, because it threatens Egypt’s territorial integrity, which is the most basic casus belli.All in all, a worthless retort in response to Egyptian reservations over the peace deal. No one in Egypt is going to start a war with Israel, and if they threatened one, talking about the Sinai as if it ought to be Israel’s or as if Israel welcomes war is ridiculous.Also, when they talk about canceling the peace deal with Israel in Egypt, it’s awfully clear what fuels the rhetoric. Populists, Pan-Arab nationalists and Islamists stoke fires with Israel over the Palestinian issue. Egypt has no beef with Israel, other than using it as an excuse to assert leadership in the Arab world, and that is a far less useful or relevant tool than it was in the 50s, 60s and 70s, as the Saudis–and the Egyptians themselves–have proven.In this regard, it may be useful to have some inward examination. The average Egyptian isn’t interested in an Islamic Caliphate or in using Egyptian blood and treasure to sink Israel into the sea. But sympathy with the Palestinians remains. That was one of Sadat’s token provisions in the 1979 agreements, a provision for Palestinian autonomy, which was never implemented and which is seen as remaining unimplemented in spite of Oslo, because the issue is of Palestinian self-determination is completely at a halt.
thank you Dr. Gabor Matė for a voice of courage and reason that none of us want to live with this pain and a real peace for all is desirable. Thanks for not letting the flame of truth burn out in all this violence.
Do you think that Arab Palestinians fight for the land?
To give you only one example:
Sheikh at Al-Aqsa: “Jews of Israel will be annihilated by Muslims, according to Allah’s decree” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he2oIxnfJXo
laura you are a racist with the analytic skills of a 6?year old: anyone can find videos or examples of people who will say just about anything about a political issue: Palestinians blowing themselves up is repellent for the same resin NRA members planting bombs that killed civilians was repellent-so the Zionists thought the Palestinians would go away and guess what they didn’t. And there are psychos running both Hamas and Israel not to mention those religious freaks from brooklyn populating illegal settlements or that right wing member of the Israeli Parliament who calls Arabs animals who need to be eradicated.
What a cruel twist of fate! The erstwhile persecuted have now become the persecutors!
Greed and the hunger for power are indeed the curse of us humans.
Thank you for your unbiased honesty.
I agree with you Katalin. I’m amazed at how regularly the abused become the abuser. It must be another way of avoiding our pain.
If you want to know the truth, watch
Hamas Barbaric Tactics To Blame Israel For “War Crimes” in GAZA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_UBc96u50k
Thank you for presenting a lucid and honest perspective of this situation as you do of others, reflecting integrity and true compassion and care – unlike so many others whose emotional attachments blindly lead them to a twisted fear and hatred of others, who really are their victims and not persecutors.
It is a sad and pathetic world that pits tribe against tribe when there is enough for all, and instead of hatred and destruction we could have love and the building of wonderful communities for all to enjoy. Today and for many days, there will be many who will mourn alongside you.
This is what really Arab Palestinian leaders want:
Watch Palestinian Preacher at Al-Aqsa Mosque Rally Calling to Restore the Caliphate, Annihilate the Jews
http://www.memri.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5129.htm
If you remember the bonigmbs in Spain of March 2004, the “Terrorists” claiming responsibility mentioned the fact that the bonigmbs were in retaliation for Muslim lands that were taken during the time of the Inquisition during Queen Isabella’s reign. They are serious about this and another writer is correct…..it is not a joke. If only the rest of the Western world understood what they are after.
Lord of the Flies is the best example of modern fiction to display the horror of tribe against tribe – children.
But this current situation is so complex. The abused becoming the abuser? It does look that way – the abused have decided it will never happen to them again and they control so much of the wealth – especially in the US. But it is a hard pill to digest and most of us who watch are feeling lost and disheartened, not wanting anyone go to war – over land. Russia and Ukraine also. Over land. Are we not all men and women who deserve a home and food? why are we not working towards this, and not death to others? I am not mentally capable of understanding even if I know the history. Humans are capable of atrocities and we always have been. I am so sorry for all of this.
May I add one last thing… please be aware that the title of this piece “Beautiful Dream of Israel has Become a Nightmare”, could only always have been construed as a nightmare to the people who were dispossessed of their homes and homeland. My father and his family were one group of such people. The creation of Israel, everything that led up to it and resulted from it could not be described as anything other than a nightmare for them. The early Zionist slogan of ‘a land without a people for a people without a land’, was a cruel lie that sought to destroy the lives of the indigenous in habitants. Their nightmare began as the dream of Israel developed for others.
Nonetheless, the content and meaning of this piece is excellent and truly heartfelt, showing compassion for all and not just a few. Thank you.
Watch Hamas minister:
“We come from Arab countries, we are not from the Land of Israel”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B5hKbDdkU4&sns=tw
A wonderful and inspiring piece. We need more like you to speak out and expose these hidden realities.
Watch Jordanian Sheikh talking to his students:
“Israel HELPS Palestinians. Jews don’t attack if you don’t attack them”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77bqzT5n5Vs
Dear Dr Maté:
Thanks for this heart felt, thoughtful, smart and love filled article about this very sad conflict. You have described the unjustifiable horror of an unjust and terribly inbalance war on a nation. Thank you for this as your credentials as an expert on healing the heart and as former Zionist who has survived the Jewis holocaust gives me hope and resources to keep engaging my smaller community and anyone who wants to hear in a conversation about peace and just regarding this conflict. With out justice peace will never be long lasting as we all know.
I have a dream that one day we will develop a new strategy of healing that will use psychotherapeutic group based means to reach large pools of antagonistic (yet open minded and willing to work in the healing process) people from different sides of a conflict and help them heal. Every time that I think about that dream which I have advance somewhat in my thoughts and writtings I think about peace in this sacred land of Israel and in between some of the major monotheistic religions in the world. We all can dream with that peace and I believe that is still possible to achieve but not without looking at the intergenerational healing needed for that to be accomplished. Thanks again. In deep gratitude to your writtings, teachings and example of living.
George Deek, Arab Christian Israeli Diplomat, tells the truth that Dr. Mate didn’t see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m6ux-IeNo4
I do not know that the world really cares about isuess of territorial integrity. I do not remember great cries against Turkey invading the waters of Israel in the problem of the Mavi Marmara. Even today, Turkey want an apology – this is backwards. When Hamas shoot bombs into Sderot or Ashkelon, the only report you will read in international news is if Israel try to defend herself, and then somehow it is our fault. Would anyone dare to tell America that it needs to free Guam, Philippines and Puerto Rice, captured in the Spanish American War? Of course not. Israel is held to a different standard. I remember finishing my army service in 1977 and spending a month camping with friends in the Sinai. It is an incredible place, especially to see it just before the Pesach. While it may have been the correct thing to do to exchange it for peace at the time, it is so much a shame that we can no longer go there.However, if the Egyptian do not put Sinai back to proper control, if they allow the Hamas from Gaza or even Beduoins or Egyptians to use the Sinai to attack land or people or ship access to the Red Sea/Gulf of Eilat, then we would have to consider this an act of war and respond. Please understand that I do not want another war. In war there are no winners. But Egypt must take responsibility for their action or inaction. If they can not or will not then Israel must.
Thank you for that, Its nice to see such an open mind considering what you and your family have been through in the past…And this quote below seems so important considering how the main stream media are portraying what’s happening in Gaza
“If you’re not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”
― Malcolm X
Arab Palestinians are oppressed by their leaders, not by Israel.
See 2 examples of real Gaza and West Bank
1) “Gaza Strip’s middle class enjoys spin classes, fine dining, private beaches”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/gaza-middle-class-discovers-spin-classes-fine-dining-private-beaches/2015/08/23/7e23843c-45d5-11e5-9f53-d1e3ddfd0cda_story.html
2) http://jcpa.org/article/luxury-alongside-poverty-in-the-palestinian-authority
Thank you so much Dr. Gabor. You have put into words what I have been thinking and feeling for years. I mourn the lose of lives and the loss of hope. There will never be peace among people until all people, or at least a majority, especially leaders, care more for our children than we care for Land, nationalism, and power. Thelma Riggs
This Is how Arab Palestinians raise their children Video https://youtu.be/4i03Ku18dr4
You are a disgusting troll, Laura Rostom! Let people speak for themselves without interfering. You are dishonoring g our Jewish ancestors, whose suffering and fights for justice is being stomped on by uncompassionate people like you!
well said.
When a people such as the Jews have been through so much pain, you would think, they would have compassion.
Sad situation, what they are doing to the Palestinian people.
If what Arab Palestinians say is true, why do they need to create a whole industry of lies known as Pallywood?
Watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrbxbTulzNo&sns=tw …
Thank you Dr. Mate for opening the doors for a different thinking. God have mercy on the people of Gaza.
Italian journalist tells who is really destroying Gaza:
The truth about Hamas
http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/07/media-cover-up-of-hamas-crimes-starting-to-unravel/
In the list of specialties, I would Probably like to start at at a Family Practitioner. I belivee this will give me a better opportunity to practice my skills , and once in a while my patience and expedience. After which I would more than likely feel confident enough to tackle any other profession. I would like to build on a solid foundation of skill and knowledge before taking on challenges I’m not well equipt for. The plain fact is , after my confidence is up, I relish i the opportunity to prove my worth.
I am moved by your thoughts and your writing. I am aware of this conflict and the pain and suffering it is continuing to create.Out of a sense of powerlessness I have learned to block out my feelings and abdicate any sense of personal responsibility to the political leaders and whatever agenda they may following. Your words have enabled me to recognise once more the sadness that this struggle evokes for me and to respond with some measure of compassion instead of denial or anger. Thank you Gabor.
Father Gabriel Naddaf:
“Abbas encourages terrorism against Christians, as Israel safeguards Christians and Muslims.”
https://www.facebook.com/frgabrielnaddaf/posts/1664883230394790
Dear Dr. Mate,
Yes, there is accumulated pain amongst us all in the Middle East; we are in a cycle that continues to bring more pain to each side. But you have painted a distorted picture of Israel as the bad guys, while the victims are the Gazans. That isn’t exactly the case. There are the Gazans, the Palestinians , and Hamas, who hate Israel and want to kill us. One can say that this is because of the occupation, but I believe it is part of their ideology. In any case, it saddens me to hear you speak in such an anti Israeli way, comparing the tunnels that Hamas has dug to carry out terrorist attacks, with the tunnels of the Jews in Warsaw, which were used to survive. How did you become so hateful of Israel just because we are more powerful? The Hamas claims to choose Death over Life–it wasn’t something that Bibi made up…..
If you see a loved one going on a psychopathic spree of mass murder, and you try to talk them out of it, is this an act of hatred?
Hamas, firstly, was created and initially funded by Israel as a way to weaken Fatah. They have repeatedly stated that they will recognize Israel as a State when Israel recognizes Palestine.
If it were not for the desperation of a people facing total annhilation, there would be no support for Hamas. Their ideology would be so very marginalized that they would vanish with the wind.
Indeed, as past pogroms against the Gaza Ghetto have shown, such slaughter (disproportionately civilians) by the Israeli Occupation Forces only strengthens the support for Hamas.
I hope one day you will learn to see people as people, rather than a label due to their ethnicity or religion.
If speaking for the end to the wholesale slaughter of women and children who have been imprisoned and intentionally impoverished by an occupying force is “Anti-Israel”, then what is that saying about what Israel stands for?
Thank you John.
The Palestinian Jihad: Lies, Lies and More Lies
By Arab journalist Bassam Tawil http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6754/palestinian-jihad-lies
well said I agree with you..
This is poignant and honest; beautifully expressed! Thank you so much for speaking the truth about this situation which is so horribly misrepresented in the media. One error in your presentation is your implication that Obama is abetting Netanyahu. This reflects a huge misunderstanding of the power of the Israel lobby over Congress and the US media. Sec Kerry has worked his ass off trying to end the occupation of Gaza as well as this current massacre of Palestinians. They deplore it. If more courageous people like you and Naomi Wolf speak out, perhaps we can free the US from subservience to the Israeli hawks. (Naomi Wolf recently wrote: Challenged below for why I am mourning genocide in Gaza. I mourn genocide in Gaza because I am the granddaughter of a family half wiped out in a holocaust and I know genocide when I see it…”
See http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/synagogue-nothing-massacre.html
Palestinian miracle: The only “genocide” in which the population grows.
You can check from their own resources:
http://www.pcbs.gov.ps/Portals/_Rainbow/Documents/gover_e.htm
Thanks Dr. Gabor. It’s so hard to believe that the people who suffer sooo much can turn around and justify the killing and suffering of another human being. I learned that some of us repeat exactly what it was done to us, and others realized that, they don’t want to hurt others the same way they were hurt. Therefore some of us learn from our experiences and others just repeat it without learning anything. Thanks for your example.
Please, don’t believe those lies.
Look while Arabs stab Israeli civilians, a Israeli hospital saves Arab babies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ7ekZ0fAHg
Thanks Dr. Gabor. It’s so hard to believe that the people who suffer sooo much can turn around and justify the killing and suffering of another human being. I learned that some of us repeat exactly what it was done to us, and others realized that, they don’t want to hurt others the same way they were hurt. Therefore some of us learn from our experiences and others just repeat it without learning anything. Thanks for your example.
First and foremost: the Sinai never beengold to anyone legally. It was captured by Israel in the Six Day War but never annexed or made part of Israel (except it was great to travel and tour around and camp out there and see the oil wells etc). When Israel ‘gave back’ the Sinai for a ‘peace/piss treaty (as Anwar Sadat called it in the Knesset) it was not Israel’s to give to Egypt nor Egypt’s to receive. So where does that leave us. We have learned nothing from history -past or current! The Gaza strip area is not ‘hamas land’, Sinai is ruled by Bedouin tribes/gangs who are the worst criminals -rip out body parts to sell to anyone who is willing to pay for them and then we ask re the ethics of those physicians who ‘install’ them), who blow up pipelines, who rob and steal at will etc.So where does that answer your question. We are headed to war again in our area with Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Gaza and others occupied by hostile people who would kill each other (Syria, Libia, Egypt) at will. It will probably take a war to decide but if Egypt breaks the so called piss-treaty then where do we go and how do we do it. Pesach
Dear Dr. Mate,
Like you my parents who were originally Hungarian survived the camps. Mom especially was a Zionist and that is how Dad found her again after the camps before their departure for their dream land. I was an infant when arrived in Israel and I cannot forget the many times, we were rushed into shelters because Arabs were always doing something that required ushering us into safety. It was 1947-1958 and I learned that I am a Zionist too. A home for the Jews where they can be free….But today there is HAMAS and that change everything. Their charter reads that they want to kill ALL Jews. And so obviously they prove to not want peace but more wars. What is Israel to do??? What choices do they have to survive? What kind of neighbors are the Arabs who hate the infidel, there can be nothing Israel will do that would change that. But they must survive, and they must push back against all odds.
I used to sing songs of “Peace on Earth” in the 1960’s… I used to believe that too will come, but as long as there is Hamas and Hezbollah, how can we have peace, and why should the Jews be sitting ducks. So while your sentiment is felt by many including myself, it is very idealistic given the situation at hand.
Why does your homeland depend on the displacement of an indigenous population?
Are Jews not safe in the United States, Canada, or even Iran?
How can a nation formed by those that coveted the land of another, who then killed people to steal their land, all the while bearing false witness against their neighbors (denying their very existence even by saying “a land without a people), and who elevated the State as an idol before G-d himself (Who told the Jewish people to live peacefully amongst the Nations until the advent of the Mosiach) be called a “Jewish State”?
Is this not an affront to Judaism itself?
Is it not extremely idealistic to think that one can displace a population, and deny them any reasonable quality of life and not cause them to hate you by doing so?
thank-you for sharing..insightful…
The German population voted the Nazis into power. Then they did not remove Hitler and his cronies when it was abundantly clear what they were up to. Their cities were bombed and millions lost their lives. Has the world not learnt from history. One can not elect a Terrorist organization to lead and then claim we did not know? that unexpected consequences of the actions of these leaders will include extreme hardship and massive injuries when an organization who has in their charter the destruction of another nation…for all the world to see. Did / does the civilian population actually believe that Hamas would protect them? would not use their homes, schools, hospitals as command and control centers for heinous attacks on civilian population in israel? did these citizens actually believe Hamas would destroy Israel? I am saddened that women and children are dying, and yes it is needlessly as Hamas has NO REGARD for anyone’s lives preferring death of their own as the only possible success since it is quite apparent that a military victory is absolutely impossible, so the more victims of collateral damage, especially kids, the happier that Hamas will be. As they have on more than one occasion taken the dead from various sites and moved them to where it best serves there own purpose, including the victims of their own revenge attacks on Gaza civilians suspected of aiding the IDF, or those that refuse to go sit on the roofs of the homes of Hamas leaders. No doubt that once Gaza is finally rid of Hamas and is a demilitarized zone, I firmly believe that Gaza will rightfully receive the support of many countries including that of Israel, which sincerely wants a vibrant and peaceful neighbor on its border.
Hamas extremism is not an excuse for Israelis cruelty and vise verse. You ran from Palestinians as kids and they’re kids ran from you Israeli. They had lived in that area for thousands of years, they’re ancestors planted the old olive trees. Yours people moving in to they’re territory did start this and your people have to find the solution but not with killing all and everyone not even giving them change to flee to an other country but sparring them in in this small area and then bombing and bombing. I know this is complicated bit It is not an excuse.
If you cared about the truth, please, read ALL my responses to others and you would know what Arabs say about this issue.
As I write, the unspeakable tragedy in Gaza continues to unfold. I thank all those who have written on this page in response to my Toronto Star article,
as of now shared over 65,000 times on social media. Thank you for expressing your opinion on this painful subject, whether in support or disagreement.
I cannot engage personally with all the various responses. Fortunately, virtually everything I might say on the subject is encompassed in these four YouTube interviews and talks, all by highly authoritative Jewish voices. I encourage those
wishing to go beyond the narrow perspectives and propaganda of the mainstream media (and mainstream advocacy organizations) to view them. It would entail about 45 minutes. In these days of the internet, the truth is available to anyone who seeks it. There cannot be justification for people to say, as they may have in times past, “We didn’t know. We had no way of knowing.” Only our reluctance to face pain and to let go of identification with cherished beliefs can stand in our way.
1. An interview with Rabbi Henry Siegman, former executive director of the American Jewish Congress and former head of the Synagogue Council of America: http://www.democracynow.org/2014/7/30/henry_siegman_leading_voice_of_us
2. An interview with Israeli Professor Ilan Pappe, formerly of the U. of Haifa, now teaching in Britain, author of a number of books on Israel: http://www.democracynow.org/2014/7/28/professor_ilan_pappe_israel_has_chosen
3. A speech in the British Parliament by the Jewish MP Sir Gerald Kaufman, speaking of Gaza in 2009, I think, words equally applicable today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMGuYjt6CP8
4. A recent speech on Gaza, also by Gerald Kaufman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkh2kaAuI4M
Finally, to those who may have been surprised to find such a clearly political subject addressed on a web page mostly concerned with physical and mental health issues, I would say only that on this subject I feel so
strongly that I will use any means available to me to make my voice heard.
With respect and wishing peace to all.
Gabor Maté
No nation with any sense of compassion should use the power it has to beat and bully women and children in order to achieve dominence. Both sides in this are to blame and it is up to the rest of us to demand an end.
The real humanitarian crisis in Gaza
https://video-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xfl1/v/t42.1790-2/11941551_984438391609066_371200937_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjM5NCwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=394&vabr=219&oh=88a4ae3b851c3b645bc9564292a776a4&oe=55DF4150 …
Thank you for your observations and thoughts. I remember 50 years ago being proud, but today being ashamed of the bully Israel.
The specialist that I would love to have an oiptrtunpoy to work with is a Neonatologist. I think that it would be a blessing and a miracle to be able to work with little ones that have to rely on you during their first few weeks of life. Some infants may require extra attention and treatment for various reasons. Being able to show empathy and give support to the families during the process is essential. My daughter was six weeks premature and required extra treatment, so I can understand the feeling that parents have when they can’t leave the hospital with their little miracle. Being able to now be the one to give that support to the families and making them feel as comfortable as they can be knowing that their child is receiving the best care possible is really important to me. New parents may feel overwhelmed and may not know how to do certain things, so being able to assist in showing them how to care for their little one would be an amazing experience.The specialists that I would least want to work with would be an Emergency physician and a Proctologist. Working with an emergency physician, you would never know what you can encounter any given day. I feel that I can handle a lot with respect to blood or anything that could make a person queasy, but I don’t know how I would react if a patient came in with a severed limb or just anything that is extreme and out of the ordinary. As with a Proctologist, I don’t have an interest working with a specialist that deals with disorders of the colon, rectum, and anus. With both of these specialties, it may be because neither are areas that I would explore. I’m sure with proper training you will be more knowledgeable and see the importance and necessity of having a specialist that can provide care for patients that depend on them to make them feel better.At the end of the day though, you have to love what you do no matter which area of interest you choose.
Working for an obstetrician would be a very intsreeting job. I currently work doing admissions and dispositions as well in my job and one thing I do, is take down all the information on the babies being born. Its amazing how many babies are born in just one month at the hospital, I do a minimum of 20 babies a month, and sometime the unfortunate part of documentation on babies who do not make it. Its a stressful field as well and you really have to practice empathy for those parents who have to deal with things going wrong.
Thank jou for this letter. I have been horrified by wat is happeningin the Palestian area. The idea that Jews of all people cold do this, knowing wat their grandparent went trough and doing the same, using the same excuse “they are dangerous to us” is it an excuse for inprisionment behind walls? To make a new Getto? Dos the old suffering of Jews give them right to rob and kill women, kids, old and young? I do not think so and I know the eye of the people of the world is opening. I believe this last act of Israel is going to hunt them for years to come. I ask with all my heart my God and they’s the one and same that this madness will end.
1) Egypt also built a wall at its border with Gaza to stop terrorism but nobody cares because the only point is to blame Israel.
2) The wall (that most of that is a wired fence) helped to reduce 95% of the terrorists attacks.
3) Do you think that Gaza is a Getto? I wish Nazi’s gettos had this kind of live>
Western Media Discovers ‘5-Star’ Gaza:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/gaza-middle-class-discovers-spin-classes-fine-dining-private-beaches/2015/08/23/7e23843c-45d5-11e5-9f53-d1e3ddfd0cda_story.html
Please, read my previous posts in this page.
The letter couinntes, “It is true that the State Department allows persons born in territories whose sovereignty is disputed to choose to list their place of birth as reflecting any recognized position in the dispute. There is, however, no legitimate dispute about sovereignty over Jaffa, Tel Aviv or Haifa. These are firmly and indisputably sited within the borders of the State of Israel. No United Nations resolution, no rule of international law, so much as casts doubt that Israel is not sovereign in these places.”And yet, the AJC carefully excludes from its protest the fact that the State Dept. violates its own rule by to list Israel as the country of birth of Americans born in Jerusalem.
Thanks you for writing pro palatine Article . I thing you forgot to mention the Israeli life routine. I thing this article is part of the danger, that underground rabbles talk the same
Thank you for this letter. I have been horrified by reading this . it’s just support the terror side . My parents have build Israel !!! We are in 2014 stop the terror . stop the Hamas = help to Palestine .
Texas. California. Both acquired in s earapte wars with Spain or Mexico. The rest of north America was taken from the native people.Go back far enough and there is no part of the Earth that was not subject to the spoils of war.The question is one of “will” not ” war.”
Thank you for reminding the world that Jewish people are capable of such humanity. I know many are, but due to the vitriol coming from Israel, which (falsely) claims to be the voice of Jewish people, most of those who do have a level of humanity are frightened into silence.
Believing and stating the rights of indigenous people to self-determination despite the colonial invaders’ wishes is not Anti-Semitism (a ludicrous allegation, the Palestinians being a Semitic people with a Semitic language, that is indicative of severe anti-Semanticism) but is a basic sense of Justice , and a sign of empathy (the lack of which is clinically called Socipathy).
I can only hope that your voice reaches far and clenches at the heart of the Diaspora, and that they will realize that Israel is no more Jewish than Charlie Manson was a Christian. Unfortunately, I see no way that this tragedy can possibly end until the Diaspora which allows Israel its power recognizes that Israel’s actions are based on the teachings of Herzl, who blatantly stated that his depraved dream would only be possible through the creation of hatred for Jews, often where none existed prior to those who followed him rather than the Torah misled the peoples of the world.
May we pray every day for the speedy and total and peaceful dismantlement of this Golden Calf that squats on Palestine.
Have you been in Israel? Have you talked with Arabs there? You’ll see how wrong you are.
Please, read my responses to the others and see this>
Syrian opposition commander: “Israel is the most humane country in the Middle East” https://news.vice.com/article/israel-is-the-most-humane-country-in-the-middle-east-why-syrias-southern-neighbors-are-working-on-their-pr …
Dear Gabor
I love your work with addiction, but this, sadly, is an ignorant piece of writing.
It’s interesting how you, like much of the media have ignored what is really going on in the Middle East.
Horrific though events in Gaza have been, they were actually a sideshow to the appalling slaughter now raging across much of the Middle East as well as Libya in North Africa. Why is this not reported with such glee? Why no mention on your website. ISRAEL IS JUDGED BY DIFFERENT STANDARDS.
Eg See:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2719460/Apocalypse-ignored-As-Gaza-grabs-headlines-epic-slaughter-engulfs-rest-region-But-protests.html
Also, people in Gaza are as much oppressed by radical Islam as by Israel, particularly women-
http://www.frontpagemag.com/upload/pamphlets/ViolentOpp.pdf
And where do you think the millions of pounds has gone that has been thrown into Gaza over the years? Israel does not want to keep Gaza poor – terrorists do -as it keeps the population dependent on their hand outs. Hamas came to power as the PLO stole most of the aid that was given to Gaza. Blaming Israel for the poverty in Gaza is completely ignorant.
Jewish anti-Isreal commentators are now fronting an anti-semitic movement dedicated to destruction of Israel as a state. Pieces like yours legitimise a movement to destroy the country.
At least go to Israel and learn something about the country. I may remind you that it the only country in the Middle East that is a true democracy, that has equal rights for women and gay people, a decent welfare state etc. Surprisingly, I have not found a piece on your comments page about the appalling treatment of women all over the Middle East. Or gay people. Or poor people. ISRAEL IS JUDGED BY DIFFERENT STANDARDS.
And lastly I do not know ANYONE in Israel who does not want peace. Or, shockingly, who does not believe that the country will be destroyed by the radical Islamic movement that is sweeping the Middle East (Israel has not caused this, it is a victim of it!). Comments like yours play a small part in that process.
I am happy to take you to Israel, so you can see for yourself. I also beg of other Jewish people to visit Israel and to be aware that their criticisms of the country are used to legitimise often very extreme anti-semiticism.
Kindest
Sophia
I too see almost no comments from anti Israeli posts here regarding hamas, Hezbollah, and islamic oppression of women, this is written many years later.10 years later its all very sad, Israel has a right to defend itself, the islamic republic wont stop, open your eyes people, of course all life is precious, but the barbaric behavior against there own as well is very sad and sick
I don’t have time to respond to all the brainwashed ignorant westerners on this board, including Dr. Mate himself (working with addicted people, being Jewish, or being a compassionate person). And please excuse the cliche, but it is true that people in the west are complete ignorants by choice and by their biases from the reality, not to mention other conflicts in the middle east that have caused millions of people, including 100s thousands of children unspeakable suffering and death. It is nothing less than another manifestation of the ages old antisemitism.
Isreal, while not perfect, is one of the most moral counties with the most courageous people on this planet. No other state, put in Israel’s shoes, would do what Israel is doing.
A suggestion to all Israel supporters. If you really want a peaceful solution, try actually listening to those who say end the illegal and immoral Gaza blockade. Like it or not, but that’s current intl. law. Just screaming “you’re an anti semite” at me because you can’t deal with factual information doesn’t help. Just the opposite. You then have zero credibility, and frankly look really foolish.
The blockade is LEGAL, and it’s only for weapons. Tons and tons of goods and construction stuff get into Gaza from Israel every week.
As an example, only in 6 months, 1,300 medical professionals from Gaza entered into Israel to take educational seminars.
115,000 Palestinians crossed to Israel in 2014, to receive medical treatment.
Palestinians’ Anti-Peace Campaign.
By Arab journalist Khaled Abu Toameh http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5750/palestinians-anti-peace
Please, read the previous answers I posted and learn what Arabs say about this conflict.
This is an incredible complicated situation. I might remind you that the whole crisis started when Hamas kidnapped and killed 3 innocent Israel youth. Hamas with its Muslim radical extremist view, would not have considered these boys innocent because of the Jihad. Yes some radical Israelis retaliated by killing the innocent Palestinian youth but these individuals have been caught and will be prosecuted. You won’t see the Hamas murderers prosecuted. Carte blanche in killing Jews.
Hamas is to blame for the death of its citizens. They do not have any respect for human life. The Koran suggests that if you are killed in the cause of Allah and world Muslim domination you get a free ticket to heaven. As a mater of fact you get 72 virgins when you get there.
This group has used financial aid that should have been used to bless the Palestinian people with schools and hospitals and homes and they have built tunnels and rockets.
Israeli troops drop leaflet warnings to encourage the innocents away from the targets. But because the people have been brain washed into thinking they have a free ride to heaven they stay put and get blown to pieces. Hamas believes these folks go to heaven, so they allow them to die and then Hamas uses the deaths to gain sympathy from the world.
I suggest you watch this video and enlighten yourselves to the truth about the brainwashing and hatred the Hamas and other radical Islamic groups are promoting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc8EjQEpZ3s
There is a prophetic utterance from the book of Genesis which says it all. It speaks of Abraham’s son Ishmael who is the Father of the middle eastern nations. ” He is like a wild donkey kicking and fighting his brother”. This battle will continue until the end of time. Get used to it. Come Jesus come. Then and only then will peace come to the region.
The Israeli govt has admitted it was in fact not Hamas who kidnapped the 3 teens and furthermore they knew that when they nonetheless used it as a pretext to start the next round of bombing the sh** out of human beings and their homes and land.
Excuse me? How does this even make sense to you? The crisis has been established 1920 by the Brits and has been exacerbating ever since. What about the 1948 war, do you suppose all participating nations were at immediate peace and prosperity after it?
Do you really think there was peace and quiet before Hamas allegedly killed some kids?
This is a very old and bitter conflict, with generations upon generations of bitterness and lies on either side. Only one of the participants has the hand to stop the conflict, and it’s Israel, the 1000 fold more powerful one of the conflict parties. Given that every bomb dropped, every person shot at either side creates many others bitter and willing to stand for their side, the only solution is going to be of reaching out a hand. I don’t see any actual evidence of Israel’s willingness to do so.
Thank you for speaking out on this Dr. Mate. I have respected your work for awhile now and this honest approach to naming the ethnic cleansing in Gaza has increased my respect. Thank you for not remaining silent during an atrocity.
Who is Cleansing Palestinians is not Israel.
By Arab journalist Khaled Abu Toameh
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6314/ethnic-cleansing-palestinians
Thank you Dr. Gabor for your words of compassion and sanity in a world going mad.
Please, Leona, if you really cared about the truth, read the answers I posted to others and you’ll see Arabs saying that what Dr. Mate is saying is not true.
Thanks
Thank you for having the courage to speak up.
Foreign Journalists Acknowledge Hamas’ Human Shields Tactics:
http://honestreporting.com/foreign-journalists-acknowledge-hamas-human-shields-tactics/
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Thank you sir.
Please, Elle, if you cared about the truth, see my previous responses and learn from Arabs who live in Israel.
One more here:
Muslim Israeli, Muhammad Zoabi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BHbvAKzNx8
We (those of us that choose to love) are all sad brother Gabor. Yet this too is cohesive.
Watch Hamas executions of Palestinians in Gaza m.youtube.com/watch?v=vOWNNvhZ0e8
Jordanian opposition leader tells the truth for those who blame Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXiWzpmUZUY
The specialist I would most like to work with is an Obstetrician. I have two chrdlien of my own and learned quickly that each birthing experience is unique and very different. I think it would be amazing to go to work every day, and never know what will happen. I also love babies! After I had my youngest child the doctor advised me not to have any more chrdlien so I feel like getting to go to work every day and see babies being born would be magical, but I would also get to go home and sleep peacefully! I am not sure how else to explain my wanting to work with an Obstetrician, but to say I have always thought it would be fascinating. Another specialist I would like to work with is Psychiatrist. I have a family history of mental illness and also addiction and have found all of my psychology classes intriguing. I am captivated by what goes into making each person who they are, and listening to every person’s story. I want to help people that are having struggles with their everyday lives find some kind of peace and happiness.I know we are supposed to pick one or two specialties we wouldn’t want to focus on, but I do not want to work under any surgical specialty. Blood does not make me squeamish but cutting into the body does not intrigue me. Cutting into another person’s skin is not on my list of top jobs I would like to do. I have great respect for neurosurgeons and cardiovascular surgeons, but it not something I want to help with.
Thank you Dr. Mate for this insightful column. Being half Jewish i have always felt that we have a monopoly on pain. Your words allow me to reflect that maybe other people have 20 to 30% stake in the pain that we feel. I have an anger deep and feel as though i have been spinning a cycle of grief for my entire life. The anger has become a dear friend; what would i do without my comforting little buddy.
yours,
James
James, you should see my previous responses and learn from what Arabs say (so different what Dr. Mate says).
I admire and respect you for writing this.
Thank you.
George Deek Arab Christian Israeli Diplomat tells the truth that Dr. Mate didn’t see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m6ux-IeNo4
To Anonymouse I got beaten up in scoohl, just because I’m Jewish. I worked as a security guard in Canada and saw some awful things happen on the streets of Vancouver at night. The police refused to come. I made ALLIA and have been wounded in battle here, but I don’t regret it in the least. People here in ISRAEL think with their HEARTS more than any where else in the world. I love it !!!!!!
I’m shocked with your opinion. I’ve talked with MANY Arabs (Muslims, Christians and Druze) in Israel and the West Bank and they told me the completely OPPOSITE. They say their problems’ root is in the Palestinian leaders that are liars, corrupts, that they abuse and use Palestinians.
I didn’t tape these persons (they told me it would be a risk for them) but, if you want to know the truth, I can send you videos and articles by other Arabs speaking out against Palestinian leaders and supporting Israel. Let me know.
Laura Rostom
Beautiful written by someone who is saving lives of addicted Canadians daily. In mainstream Press mantra Palestinians are forgotten or demonized.
Shameless Laura Rostom who writes her frequent Zionist/rasists reply, is trying to spoil this deeply humanitarian voice.
I personally feel the ‘ordinary people’ of the world should agree that all forms of war should cease. war should not be a solution to any problem. Palestine is in my heart. I am Irish and I feel compassion and pain and heartbreak for the Palestinian people. I love the Jewish people who usually by nature are kind and compassionate and full of wisdom. Israeli government are a cancer on the Jewish people. Greed, power, and man’s inhumanity to man is prevalent here. Peace is the only way there is no other answer. yet, man never learns this lesson. the sign of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. As an individual I can only let it begin with me. I make a conscious decision not to hate the Israeli’s I have decided to pray and hope that there is more love in the world than hatred but it has to begin with me.
You may also want to read on the subject, as you seem to care. A good primer would be:
Yemini, Ben-Dror. Industry of Lies: Media, Academia, and the Israeli-Arab Conflict. 2017.
Which you could get on Amazon (or, hopefully, at your local library):
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/1979061432/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=15121&creative=330641&creativeASIN=1979061432&linkCode=as2&tag=canada0b4-20&linkId=900c29aa78d99cf1f5bea326cdfa81ea
For some reason, you make it axiomatic that the weaker side (we’ll get to that in a moment) is always right, and can do no wrong, while the stronger side can only be the aggressor.
The Arab side had numerous occasions to have their independent state:1937, 1947, 2000-2001, 2008, to name just a few. They have always said no, as their goal is not an independent Palestinian Arab state, but the elimination of the Jewish state.
Now for the weak/strong side: how is it that a nation of some 14 million who is faced by more than a Billion is considered the stronger one? How is a state on less than 9 million, who is surrounded by enemy states of comprised of ten of million of people is considered the stronger one?
That the KGB in the 1960s managed to reframe the Arab-Israeli conflict in an Israeli-Palestinian one, and thus tuning the obvious Israeli David into a Goliath, is a manifestation of the prowess of the Soviet propaganda machine, and the gullibility of large portions of the Western population.
You just dropped a bomb
Dear Dr. Mate, I deeply admire your work and your spiritual contribution to the human mind. But, as I have met many former Zionists, who were also great humanitarians and amazing people, one question is haunting me that I cannot get an answer to. Why did you believe that Zionism was a beautiful dream? Wasn’t it clear from the start, that: 1) A national home was planned not just for those Jews who wish to settle in Palestine, but for ALL Jews all over the world, and as such it required an enormous space, which makes impossible to fulfill in a bi-national state, 2) a purely Jewish state requires a removal (however gradual) of non-Jews from the area = ethnic cleansing? Wasn’t it clear after what Herzl said “to ensure our supremacy over an area, sufficient to satisfy our needs” and what Zionist forefathers said “Maximum land with minimum Arabs on it”? What was it that you thought Zionism was, to see it as a “beautiful dream” instead of settler-colonial project, based on ethnic cleansing, sanctioned by British colonialism in “Balfour declaration”? I am sure those who believed in Zionism imagined it in a positive way. Which way was it?
Dr. Maté, I admire and respect your work very much. I read carefully both your writing and most comments.
I still have questions that your blog post raised for me. Today I came across a presentation discussing a number of issues for which I would find your comments and views valuable (especially the ones about the pattern and unconsciousness).
Also, I would love to hear your comments about the larger, global, picture of Judaism/ antisemitism, which spans centuries of historical development.
Here is a brilliant and disturbing lecture by retired medieval history professor Richard Landes (Boston U), published yesterday (November 2019). I would greatly appreciate your comments:
https://youtu.be/r5E91JFXTOw
Thank you.
I’ve felt this since I was a child wondering why as half siblings in the myths of the Abrahamic religions we can not respect one another. But it came with outside intervention. Before the British empire Palestine’s Jews and Arabs – often one each was both- coexistence was a daily thing.
Stop killings. It’s an atrocious way to sabotage your faith and the teachings.
War is criminal.
Stop the Gaza Ghettoes.
Remember the Holocaust
Gracefully omitted is that all forms of violence have always been started by Arab states or Palestinians who openly use human shields to kill civilians indiscriminately. Double war crimes which are so intelligently omitted! Israel feeds Gaza, blocks import of weapons, another convenient omission!
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To understand the conflict truly you need to have deep understanding of both Israeli and Palestinian societies and the history of the past 100+ years. The Israeli public, traumatized by 3 decades of horrific terrorism directed intentionally at killing civilians and as many as possible has lost any hope for peace and this has decimated the liberal left in Israel. Israeli society has changed radically as a result. Gabor’s reaction is actually quite immature though his pain is authentic. I hope that as he does mature, so will his understanding and he will be able to see that trauma plays a role on both sides of the wall. It is a sad sad dance. The human suffering is unimaginable. Sadly, I expect it will continue to escalate and as the Palestinians are both the weaker party and the one actively choosing violence again and again (the majority of Palestinians see the complete eradication of Israel as the only viable solution and see violence as the only path to that solution) , they will experience more and more suffering. It is tragic but it not a fair reading of reality to put the blame on Israel.
A beautiful man and a wonderful article especially poignant as Israel is exacting vicious revenge against Palestinian civilians again,and my country the USA is providing Israel with more weapons using our tax dollars to line the pockets of vile and dangerous US arms dealers.
NO MORE WAR
Gabriella
Dr. Mate, thank you for sharing your thoughts. I read this article years ago, and it found its way to me again in 2023 when there is a conflict between Israel and Palestine. I hope one day, the world will find peace instead of fighting. No one wins in a war.
As a Jew and grand daughter of a survivor I was never taught to hate germans nor did they teach me to grab a gun since I was 5 years old nor chant anything against the polish civilians that looked the other way or the young germans that joined the regime. I’ve been told that palestinian children are indoctrinated by TV programs and schools. Dr. Mate please let me know what you saw because I’ve not been able to be there myself. I really want to learn this point of view you have. Thanks.
Warsaw ghetto residents didn’t use their tunnels to rape, murder and torture children.
I know the enemy, for I am become him. the murderous nazi ss killed 6 million jews, confining tens of thousands to the Warsaw ghetto, before gassing and burned in creamatoria. today, Palestinians are confined to Israel’s virtual Warsaw ghetto and concentration camp, the Gaza Strip and the occupied West Bank. Israeli citizens live under democratic? laws, while Palestinians have to live under military laws imposed by the IDF gestapo thugs. is Israel a democracy?, because no other democracy on earth confines it’s citizens behind razor wire fences, anti personnel mine fields, machine gun nests, giving the Palestinians just above starvation level food rations. on t.v. I saw a 12 yr old Palestinian getting sickened dizzy from drinking the dirty, toxic water they have to live on. they can buy clean bottled water from unscrupulous Israeli vendors, but 95% of Palestinians can’t afford it. I’m not antisemitic, but why did Hamas go on a rampage?, because they are the Palestinians’ only voice. does the u.s., eu, Canada, really care for these helpless, powerless throwaways? not a chance, and the toothless United Nations fares little better, having to cowtow to the u.s. to get anything done. while u.s. manufactured 2000 lb blockbuster bombs keep killing women, children, infants etc., the western (civilized?) nations sit by ,helpless and gutless. kudos to the good israelis and jews world wide who condemn Netanyahu and his regime for their savage, genocidal pogrom. you are the true future of Israel.we stand by you as brothers and sisters, keep up the good fight, we have your back. what a sad, lonely and corrupt country Israel has become. the HOLY LAND is no more. now we need Jesus the Messiah to return more than ever.
Your essay resonates deeply with empathy and a nuanced comprehension of the profound human toll exacted by conflicts. It adeptly establishes connections between historical events and the ongoing situation in Gaza. Your poignant exploration of justifications for violence, coupled with a heartfelt plea for shared grief and compassion, carries substantial emotional weight. The potency of your words underscores the universal aspects of human experience, surpassing tribal affiliations. I express my gratitude for sharing your perspective, rooted in personal history and a resolute commitment to justice and peace. As a survivor of the Vietnam War myself , I find it impossible to restrain my tears when confronted with the distressing images portraying the atrocities currently unfolding in Gaza.
I find it disheartening to think that people think the blockade on Gaza was instituted out of a Jewish desire to annoy the Gazans.
Weapons [to kill Jews] were being brought into Gaza from the sea and land.
I am not making that up.
It would take a lot of energy to find an intellectual way to let that just happen.
Talking about weapons and intellectuality: please read “The Palestine Laboratory” by Antony Loewenstein. It will put your comment in a completely different perspective.
It is an ongoing nightmare, and the American followers of that murdered New York racist Jewish rabbit , Kahane ( I forgot his name…), always well-funded by vested interests…, moved to Israel decades ago, they are behind the criminal, violent expropriation, ongoing occupation of Palestinian land in the West Bank: they have brought to Israel , and to the world, destruction in the name of high end righteousness….
The Palestinians use tunnels? So did my heroes, the poorly armed fighters of the Warsaw Ghetto. Unlike Israel, Palestinians lack Apache helicopters, guided drones, jet fighters with bombs, laser-guided artillery. Out of impotent defiance, they fire inept rockets, causing terror for innocent Israelis but rarely physical harm. With such a gross imbalance of power, there is no equivalence of culpability.